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DreamTone7



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 6:44 pm    Post subject: re Reply with quote

One more point. Questionnaire did not mention in his history lesson that this will be the first time an "empire" has existed that comprises the whole globe. This makes things a little bit different.......the potential for catastrophe is much greater.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 9:47 pm    Post subject: good point ... Reply with quote

".... this will be the first time an "empire" has existed that comprises the whole globe. This makes things a little bit different.......the potential for catastrophe is much greater."



A very good point, DT, and it means that the death of a global empire might be a little different. There are a number of possibilities, but most likely either slow and painful corrosion under increasing terrorism, crime and corruption as the global 'underclass' expands and gets left further behind, or, as you say, a catastrophe if some rogue state or terrorist cell acquires nuclear capability. Either way, the only way out of this is for the USA to abandon its global ambitions and put its domestic economy in order - highly unlikely, of course, because the global 'overclass' is becoming incredibly powerful and wealthy in the global market, and the important technocrats who expand and maintain their technology for them are doing quite nicely for themselves out of it.



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Galmin
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: it doesnt pay to be complacent Reply with quote

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Although 'competition' drives much of global economic expansion, the truth for many companies is that greed drives their desire to move their manufacturing to other nations.


It's the same thing :eyebrow

I like the term profitoriented myself. :D



My point was that this is far from an isolated US phenomenon, as DT tried to paint it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 12:38 pm    Post subject: USA is the principal driving force ..... Reply with quote

"My point was that this is far from an isolated US phenomenon, as DT tried to paint it."



That's true, Galmin. Many global corporations are based outside the USA, but the USA is leading and suppporting global corporatism and consumerism more than anyone else, in the sense of providing the political/military muscle, and the ideological and moral fervour that it spreads around by means of its mind-rotting mass culture.



Call it greed, competition or profit-seeking, it doesn't matter - the crucial thing is that it's systematized, in the sense that everyone - investor, producer, consumer, politician - is gridlocked into the logic of the game, which no company dare challenge because it would be committing suicide by deterring investments and putting its own survival and that of its employess at risk. It's a trap, a cul-de-sac; no way out for anyone other than to play the game even harder and win. And they call this 'freedom' - hahahahahaha :laugh



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:07 pm    Post subject: you wont believe Reply with quote

the corruption I've seen with these very own eyes. Absolute rot, right from the top down. Quite quite sickening. Schemes, lies, stealing from the little people (making juniors write off time so biggies can book that time and make fat bonuses), fudging expenses...



And god help you if you question it.

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