So...

[DreamTone7]

I was an officer in the Navy many years ago.....I don't know if you'd consider that working for the government or not. Currently I'm an Industrial Engineer at Boeing. I've also taught in High School (grades 10-12), and have ties with people in the TV/movie business. (I've seen how the media works up close, believe me.)



....what do you do Debbie? (he, he)

[debbie mannas]

if you tell me why the condescending (he, he).

[DreamTone7]

It was only a joke.....I know (as I think everyone on this board does) that you're a singer.

[debbie mannas]

I actually work full time, designing and writing training material and putting it online (eLearning) for our Group. I am also the regional training officer, planning and sometimes delivering training to our people in Asia.



I am doing an MSc in Training and HRM alongside.



I have a rock band, Heisha. And am working with two other HK artists to produce an original album this year under the band name Ignition.



The silver lining to SARS is we've cancelled our rehearsals till it dies down and I have a breather at least for the next couple of weeks.

[bbchris]

you've cancelled rehearsals??? This is actually a great time to get creative as all my band mates have unexpected freetime - hahahahaha We're doing a gig tonight as Susie Wilkins cancelled because of SARS!! I've got a stinking cold as well. ROCK N ROLL!



Whoops this is the politics board - we resume our regular programming....

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[debbie mannas]

Two of our guys (one in each band) have kids and dont want to take the chance. One guy is in Bangkok with his family and will not return till the 23rd.



As for me, I'm seriously cold turkeying. The only singing I've done in public for a month and a half is in church (!) and today I sang solo "were you there when they crucified my lord" - Good friday mass. WITHOUT the damn mask.



What a life. Still once we get back to normal my life is going to be crazy, so I'm enjoying this downtime.

[Galmin]

Ron, why don't you clarify terminologies to the following professors? I am sure they would appreciate your effort.



Maybe you could throw something in about their inability to read and comprehend the English language in an effort to completely avoid the subject.





Mary Ellen O'Connell is both a professor of law at The Ohio State University Moritz College of Law and an associate of OSU’s Mershon Center for the Study of International Security and Public Policy. She teaches courses on international law, international dispute resolution, international environmental law, international law and the use of force, and contracts.





Marjorie Cohn is an associate professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law in San Diego, where she teaches Criminal Law, Criminal Procedure, Evidence, and International Human Rights Law.

[debbie mannas]

I'd boink this interesting topic to the top.

[RonOnGuitar]

You certainly have the right as a non-native speaker to become enraged when native speakers correct your lingusitic errors. However I believe you'll find one of the best ways to learn a new language is to cultivate the attitude of a continual learner. (Your claim of being an "expert" nonwithstanding.)



As you've admitted you could only offer - at best - what you called an "introductory note" from the UN charter, not a citation of any law. To assist you in determining a nice thought "let's all get along and play nice", which is all the introductory note you cited asks - from what constitutes a law you can download a pdf of Swedish law by right clicking: justitie.regeringen.se/pr...alcode.pdf .To someone not familiar with basic nuances of the English language, I suppose the two might seem interchangable. To those conversant in basic law and the English concepts involved the difference is painfully obvious.



<<Milosevic>>



Yup - another dictator who experienced a "regime change" at the hands of America & allies and who was brought to justice. If he is captured alive we may also have Saddam face a tribunal, but the Iraqi people should have first shot at trying him for his crimes againt them. The UN really has little, if any say in that. The UN has to seek to be granted the permission of the coalition to be allowed to do anything concerning Iraq for that matter.



However in citing Milosevic, you help to vividly expose the nature of your confusion on this - you're confusing your emotional reasonings with real world fact. Unless you want to contend that *you* are the UN, you're left with "well, I *feel* some law somewhere was broken". And you're certainly welcome to have an IMHO with which the UN obviously disagrees (IMHO means: "In My Humble Opinion"). But it's nothing more than that.



By the way, since the UN is asking permission to join the coalition in Iraq, you'd have to "arrest" the UN as a "co-conspirator"! Or does the UN arrest itself?



There's nothing wrong with having strong personal opinions, but your opinion on this has no base in the real world. If it did, it would be more than just the illogical reaction that it is. Surely an interesting opinion - just of no legal or any other consequence in reality. It's an illusion that you are welcome to hold on to if you so choose.



I'm not sure what your confusion about the French desecration of graveyards is about. Chirac apologized for France to the Queen, "in the name of France". If the French are repentant - and it's hard to tell with Chirac - they should be forgiven. However, France has a long and ongoing history of cemetary desecrations. That is not unusual for Europe which had previously centered on desecrating the cemetaries of it's ongoing favorite victims, the Jews. So it's nothing new at all that this occurs. The new low here is the vandalizing of graves of not only their traditional victims, but also of the graves of their traditional liberators.



==Ron==

[Galmin]

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You certainly have the right as a non-native speaker to become enraged when native speakers correct your lingusitic errors. However I believe you'll find one of the best ways to learn a new language is to cultivate the attitude of a continual learner. (Your claim of being an "expert" nonwithstanding.)

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Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired, oh native speaker.

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As you've admitted you could only offer - at best - what you called an "introductory note" from the UN charter, not a citation of any law.

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You are immensely slow today, Ron, is it on purpose?



I quoted the "Introductory Note", SINCE YOU ASKED:

" *When* was it invoked by *what* recognized authority?"

I did it because it is in the "Introductory Note" the very information that you, yourself, requested is to be found.

You have continously criticized me for making this quote, calling it a "Preamble" when it is in fact nothing of the sort.



On the 4/2/2003 I OFFERED a link to the entire UN Charter that you have, until this day, chosen to neglect

(the preamble you loved to talk about earlier can can be found on the site I linked to aswell, since it holds the entire UN Charter. Do you think you can find it, or do you want me to quote it for you?).



If you can remember (hahaha) it all started when you asked Phil Frazier the following:

"*What* "international law" is that? *When* was it invoked by *what* recognized authority?



I think what ya got there is wishful thinking rather than anything tangable!"



I told you where to find the information (Article 2, section 4), I linked the UN Charter for you. I regret I cannot read it for you, that little part of work is something that you have to do for yourself (together with comprehending the content, for you a much harder task).





Have you pointed out to Mary Ellen O'Connell and Marjorie Cohn that they do not, according to your humble opinion, know anything regarding International Law yet?





Wouldn't it be much easier for you to admit that you do not know enough in this particular area?



We could simply agree on that accoring to International Law the invasion was illegal and get on with our lives.

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I'm not sure what your confusion about the French desecration of graveyards is about.

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Your subject line went:

"France desecrates graves of Brit war dead"



France. Was the desecration a state act?



Furthermore you are putting words into the mouth of Mr Hughes by practising the most awkward quotationtechnique ever.. no quotation at all.