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Galmin The King has spoken!
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DreamTone7
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: re |
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Quote: "Before a UN member that happens to hold the most military power dictated a deadline for Iraq (not included in Resolution 1441) until military force was to be applied (not included in Resolution 1441), things were working within the ramifications of UN law."
~Me. (Galmin)
So, according to you , Galmin, it's OK for Iraq to refuse to cooperate with the UN anytime they feel like it. Law must apply to all, or it is not a law at all. In my opinion, as soon as Iraq failed to comply, they should have been "arrested". They were not.
Deb, it depends. Vigilantes are frowned upon, generally speaking. But if one breaks the law, our court systems have the leeway to include mitigating circumstances in deciding sentence. There are minimum and maximum sentences set as guidelines to work within for some of the more severe crimes. In some extreme cases, there are also such things as "pardons" given. I'm not saying the US should be "pardoned"...... I think it's still too early to answer that question.

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Seismic Anamoly
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debbie mannas
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 4:32 am Post subject: Why |
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do they move?
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Seismic Anamoly
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Galmin The King has spoken!
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 10:14 am Post subject: Re: re |
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Quote: So, according to you , Galmin, it's OK for Iraq to refuse to cooperate with the UN anytime they feel like it. Law must apply to all, or it is not a law at all. In my opinion, as soon as Iraq failed to comply, they should have been "arrested". They were not.
Tell me, DT, where in Resolution 1441 is there a set deadline for Iraq to comply, where is the automation for military force should they not comply?
There even was a new Resolution that should have a set deadline and automation for military force suggested but it was never presented to vote upon.
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DreamTone7
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 12:37 pm Post subject: re |
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It is the spirit of the law, not the letter of the law that I am concerned with. Let lawyers and other legal parasites argue over the letter. If no deadline to comply was given, it was certainly implied that it would be now, and not in the year 3000.
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Galmin The King has spoken!
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: re |
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Quote: It is the spirit of the law, not the letter of the law that I am concerned with.
Really? You could have fooled me.
Quote: Let lawyers and other legal parasites argue over the letter.
Why, do you think the letter of the UN Charter and Resolutions are too advanced for ordinary people? The plebs shouldn't get informed? Lovely.
Quote: If no deadline to comply was given, it was certainly implied that it would be now, and not in the year 3000.
Granted. Though it was never implied that some president of some country were to dictate a deadline, nor was an automation for military force implied.
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