Jethro Tull Banned Over Flag Criticism

droolymutt · Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: Try these two Chris..

Yeah - Bungle in the Jungle is a kicker, too....

But that guitar solo in Aqualung, juxtaposed with that bass line, never fail to give me a Huge adrenaline rush.....

I've just listened to it 4 times in a row.....

I gotta stop - before I explode......

RonOnGuitar · Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 1916

yeah, the guitar & bass does a type of "call and response" echoing the vocal "Sitting on a park bench" (doing Beavis&Buthead air guitar) "eyeing little girls with bad intent" (B&B airguitar redux).

I think Tull may fit into the same acquired taste slot as Pink Floyd - or at least the same bro was also a Floyd fan. I dunno.

Edited by: RonOnGuitar at: 11/17/03 7:05 pm

Sterling30sg · Joined: 03 Sep 2002 Posts: 186

To really appreciate them.., I saw them at the Silverdome about '78 or so..., phenomenal show..

Still a great live act I hear and Anderson recently won a Grammy.., wouldn't mind seeing them again myself..

RonOnGuitar · Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 1916

Quote:
I saw them at the Silverdome about '78

The tickets were prob $15, maybe $20 tops, I bet. Good times were a bit less costly then!

Sterling30sg · Joined: 03 Sep 2002 Posts: 186

I remember taking in 2-3 shows at Cobo Hall every week and usually getting in for only a couple of dollars, I'd wait until the last moment when the scalpers were having their fire sale .., often a dollar would buy a ticket.. I remember when The Stones played Tempe Stadium.., bad day for the scalpers allright.., nearly all their tickets went for a dollar....

These shows now costing several hundred dollars now..., can't see it myself.. Dylan is still very reasonable and Shauna Twain sold out The Palace for two nights and her highest tickect price was around $70 I think.., good girl that Shauna..

questionnaire · Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 640

I grew up with Jethro Tull, from 'Love Story' in 1967 through 'Living In the Past' (my favourite single of all time), 'Sweet Dream' and 'Witches' Promise' right through to the mid-70s when they started going off the boil and the industry started changing into the dumbed-down junk-peddling racket that it is today. If you want to hear one of their real rocky numbers, try 'Locomotive Breath' from the 'Aqualung' album.

"In the shuffling madness

Of the locomotive breath

Runs the all-time loser

Headlong to his death ....."

One of the all-time great innovators, never a dull moment. Irrelevant novelty act, Ron? It's tastes and politics like yours writ large that have made America and its excruciatingly tedious music industry what they are today ..... :bleh

Q.

droolymutt · Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Tull ...

oooOOOOoooOOOOoooo YEAH, Baybee.....!!!!!!!!!!!!

Locomotive Breath....(128 kbps mp3)

Sterling30sg · Joined: 03 Sep 2002 Posts: 186

the lovely piano intro is a beautiful contrast for what is about to come in that song.., the the soft blues guitar riffs and Blam.., here it comes..

I saw Tull perform twice live.., I never saw such nonstop energy in my life..., certainly one of the hreat acts..

questionnaire · Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 640

btw, do you know that a Tull song called 'We Used To Know' was the inspiration behind The Eagles' 'Hotel California'? It's the same chord progression and a similar melody, and The Eagles supported Tull in their early days. Unkind cynics at the time claimed that it was a straight rip-off, and Anderson should have sued.

Novelty act??!! That really got to me, that did. Tull were one of the truly innovative rebels - not the 'approved rock rebels' that the dumbed-down American media have been shoving down our throats for 40 years.

RonOnGuitar · Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 1916

Quite right, Questionarre, I sit corrected. "Novel" would have been a better term ("Weird Al" is a novelty). But when you get outside of the old-timers and hardcore fans, I think you might get a blank stare when mentioning Tull.

Novel and offbeat in the same vein as "Mothers Of Invention" or "Velvet Underground", who were also influential to many musicians. Both these names will also likely net you more than a few blank stares among the general populace, unless they are regular listeners of Classic Rock/Oldies stations.

Outside of Tull's top-40 releases, I just never acquired a taste for more. But I think it's very cool when others are into Tull in a big way!

:yeah

sethr · Joined: 24 Mar 2003 Posts: 190

Anybody remember their tune "Bouree"? That was one of my favorites. It was a version of a tune by J.S. Bach, with a bluesy bass line. Very cool.

questionnaire · Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 640

"Novel and offbeat in the same vein as "Mothers Of Invention" or "Velvet Underground", who were also influential to many musicians. Both these names will also likely net you more than a few blank stares among the general populace, unless they are regular listeners of Classic Rock/Oldies stations."

Well, I can't disagree with that, but I wonder why the 'populace' knows very little about musical history? Denying a population any aspect of its cultural history makes both selling garbage and recycling older cultural forms (in this case tunes) much easier. A dumbed-down population cut off from its history is absolutely essential to the marketing needs of the current music industry. Fortunately, there are quite a few bright kids around, and they go digging in the past, around the world and into the indie vaults to escape the dross. As an educationalist, I get a bit angry when I encounter what the consumer industries are doing to a lot of young kids, making them feel so insecure, cutting off their collective past, colonising their imaginations and shortening their attention-spans. I have difficulty getting some level 2 undergraduates to read a book all the way through these days .....

bbchris · Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: Try these two Chris..

Thanks for the explanations from everyone! I'm listening to the song Drooly - never heard it before although Shaun is now mumbling about the band being Britain's answer to Grateful Dead??? It seems EVERYONE knows all about them EXCEPT ME?!?!? Off to listen more!! :banana

daniel · Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Posts: 273

Here's my two cents:

To me, it's not a political or national matter...it's a question of manners.

I've been to people's homes for dinner....sometimes, the decor is really awful....or it smells funny in their house...as a guest, I would never make mention of that. I'm a guest in their home-why would I want to insult them, even if I thought the house was ugly or tacky? Somethings are better left unsaid. I wouldn't want to insult my host/hostess.

I realize there's a censorship issue here, which of course is uncool...but, when in Rome...do as the Romans!

Americans are very patriotic...I wish we Canadians would take a lesson or two from them on that. In Canada, when someone asks you what you are, you say:

"I'm half Italian...a quarter Irish/Scottish & a quarter Belgian."

In the States, you ask the same question and they say "I'm American".

Anyway, I love Jethro Tull...I believe in freedom of speech too...but my mother also taught me manners & respect. I think he should have kept the comment to himself. I'm not sure it offered any brilliant sociological insight-he was just stating the obvious,and putting a negative twist on it. Truth is, if American roots music never existed, Ian Anderson & Jethro Tull would have never existed either! Same can be said about all of our favourite British bands of the 60's and 70's.

Oddly enough, the name Jethro Tull is the name of a British agriculturalist from the 15th century or something. Is that not a form of patriotism?

I agree they can get carried away...or perhaps it just seems that way because they are so many,and we ALL watch American TV.

Anyway, when a guest...bring a bottle of wine or dessert...and even if the food sucks, don't say anything!!

As the french say: politesse!!

d.

questionnaire · Joined: 29 May 2003 Posts: 640

But D., isn't that saying that we should believe in free specch but we should confine it to our homes where nobody else gets to hear it? In that case, speech is not free but severely restricted. Plus, to extend your analogy, in the case of America you are entering a household where at least half the inhabitants already know, wholeheartedly agree and have been very vocal themselves about the fact that the decor is lousy and it smells funny.

Q.